#220: Under New Management

[F.U.C.K. is an e-zine that I started on January 24, 1993 and ended on January 24, 2000. One concept is that articles should be timeless if possible, so they were not released with dates. As such, the date on this blog is not exact but I will try to use a date as close as possible.]


Business’ attitudes have done a full 180. It used to be that a business cared about the customers, and actually strived to make them happy. Anytime a customer was upset the business would bend over for the customer to make sure they were happy and would continue to trade there.

Today however, things are quite the opposite. Businesses look at it like “we can always get more customers” and they are right. When a business screws an individual they usually give little more than a “sorry” before shoving you out the front door. Letters to management go unanswered, if you call in to speak with someone about a problem or yanking your business you mysteriously get put on hold, etc.

Over the past few months I have noticed this trend with disgust. Working in retail a few years ago ended up teaching me the fundamentals of good business, and how to keep a customer. The Best Buy I worked at was endlessly kissing irate customers’ asses, giving stuff away for free to appease people, and making special provisions for tough customers. The management never hesitated to go out of their way to make the customer happy. As a result, business was extremely good, and in the long run we kept a lot of customers.

Since then, my old bank (as well as my new one) have both basically indicated they could care less if I bank with them. Since there aren’t many large banks in the area, and I don’t want to gamble on a bank that isn’t part of a chain with good backing, I am stuck with the lesser of two bastards. Why can they afford to do that?

They know that if business suffers too much, they can implement one of many ploys to get more business. ‘Under New Management’ is a good one that brings people back over and over. They play it off like their problems were because of one manager that was messing things up, and now that he is gone things will be much better. Like good little lemmings, people flock back and continue to do business there.

Running special promotions like “buy 10 get the 11th free!” and “no interest or payments for 13 days” can do the same thing. People are willing to go back to a bad business to get the good deal. Instead of standing by their belief that a company is severely messed up, they suddenly change their mind and say “they aren’t so bad”.

Instead of going back to a business that has treated you poorly, stay away from them forever. There is always competition right down the road. I know you are probably saying “what about you and your bank”… good point. Because of my schedule and need for certain banking functions that come with the larger banks, I am forced to stick with them for longer than I like.

On top of staying away, make sure you tell everyone about your problems. Start with their management, corporate schmucks, employees, your friends, the internet, etc. The more people that know, the more of an effect you will have. Just telling them you will be posting it to the net where some 50 million people could read it is oftentimes a good enough threat, and you will find you getting your way. Threaten them.. they have done far worse to you.

Don’t forget about your problems with a business. Even if it’s months down the road, they probably haven’t changed that much. Tell everyone that crosses your path about your experience and make sure they know you don’t want them dealing with that business. Be persistent!

#218: Half an Ass

[F.U.C.K. is an e-zine that I started on January 24, 1993 and ended on January 24, 2000. One concept is that articles should be timeless if possible, so they were not released with dates. As such, the date on this blog is not exact but I will try to use a date as close as possible.]


It seems that everyone does things in a half assed way these days. This growing trend is not limited to what I see on the bulletin boards in 303, but they do provide a glaring example of the trend that seems to be emerging.

I will cover three areas I notice this in particular, all come from various BBSs and the postings by the members.

Hacking. With the growing number of computer based movies or scenes with ‘hacking’ in them, more and more people want to learn how to do it. They have heard that it can be done, and that you can get access to all kinds of secret government info blah blah blah. So people flock the boards looking for hackers to teach them how to do all this neat stuff.

The first thing they want to do is learn how to hack government machines, or make free phone calls. This is the biggest turnoff for an experienced hacker. Instead of wanting to learn how the system works, how to manipulate it, and how to go unnoticed, they just want the end product (info) or side effect (free calls). As soon as you tell them to read a few text files and then ask questions, they are instantly turned off.

“No one said anything about learning!” is a common response to this. If you want to learn to do anything, you have to read and learn all areas, even the boring ones. Knowing everything about a particular system is not always a fun thing to learn or research, but it is very helpful in analyzing and defining the whole concept. Nothing is free anymore.

A common thread or topic of discussion you find is based on bands, songs, and styles of music. A few years back I could read a post about a new band and make a quick determination if I wanted to purchase the CD or at least borrow it to listen to it. The people were well informed on various styles of music, well versed on a wide variety of music, and had sense not to recommend bizarre music.

These days you find mostly 14-17 year-olds talking about their favorite music.. which happens to be one style. You will usually find they like just rock, or just punk, or just metal. No diversity in their lives as far as music goes. Since there is no real difference in what they listen to, they are ill-prepared to make a decision on which band is good and which isn’t. I know that it is ultimately their own opinion, but there is a line at which you can say “that band has no talent”.

Bands with no talent are cashing in on a single hit that sounds like a current style or follows a current trend. Seeing these kids argue over bands that are under a year old makes me cringe.

Debates are a common thing found on boards. Many times day to day conversation will wind up in a debate about one thing or another on top of message bases devoted to debates already. Topics often touch on philosophy, religion, sports, music, tv shows, etc. The average debate will contain quality replies for usually no more than one day. After that you have two kinds of people:

The flamer. Someone doesn’t like your opinion and will make sure that you and everyone else knows it. Instead of debating with you about it, they will insult you, your parents, your girlfriend, or anything else they can think of. Instead of taking it to mail, they will make sure everyone reads it.

The uninformed. The other half of the time you will get someone that knows very little about the topic try to jump in and tell you what is right and wrong. They base their opinion off no formal education on the subject, no reading about the material, and no previous debates. Its hard to debate back with people like this because they just don’t have the ability to grasp that they are being outmatched in intellect.

As I said before, this carries over to life off the bulletin boards. One of the funnier ones are the people who halfway dress up, or the little gangbangers that put the lowrider tires on their 57 dollar car that has more rust than paint. It is usually pretty obvious when someone fits into this category as they don’t appear to notice people staring.

Just look at the big picture.

#215: 24

[F.U.C.K. is an e-zine that I started on January 24, 1993 and ended on January 24, 2000. One concept is that articles should be timeless if possible, so they were not released with dates. As such, the date on this blog is not exact but I will try to use a date as close as possible.]


As every day passes the world becomes more and more enveloped in a serious logistical problem. Every day you sit in bumper to bumper 5 MPH traffic you should realize this. The concept of a 24 hour world should have been implemented years ago.

Instead of this five workday, nine hour business day, one hour lunch, two fifteen minute break life, we should broaden our life to include a different set of hours for normal operation. Instead of providing structure, this limited work week provides chaos. Rush hour traffic is a big enough argument. I should probably do some research into where the idea of such a limited work week came from to better understand it, but I feel it would not make sense regardless of where it came from.

If everyone works ‘business’ hours you run into the first problem. When am I supposed to go to the bank or the dry cleaners? If each business stays open until five or six and everyone (or a large percentage) works those same hours, how is anyone expected to visit the other business?

Companies that stay open for long hours or 24 hours usually have several advantages. For those who work normal business hours, they have the opportunity to get things done. Instead of making special provisions with your boss to get a few hours off, you can still do it before or after work. The companies that keep longer hours get the business of those who can’t make those provisions.

Aside from getting more business, those companies typically have time to do night stocking, cleaning, and merchandising all while making money. Between the additional time to work around the store and the ability to make more customers happy by providing your service, they come out on top.

The traffic during the rush to and from work is responsible for a good percentage of accidents. These accidents cause slow traffic as people do everything in their power to watch what is going on. In many cases I have seen traffic slow anywhere up to 40 MPH below the speed limit to watch the aftermath of an accident. The worst case was a sudden 20 MPH drop while people watched a single tow truck hook up a car. No police, no fire trucks, no ambulance, etc.

I currently live 70 minutes from work and it is all highway driving. Often times it takes more than an hour and a half to get there, and over an hour and a half to get back. Some trips have averaged about 40-55 MPH (the speed limit being 65-75) for large portions of the drive. If the population’s work schedules were spread out over a 24 hour period the traffic problems would thin out.

In my last apartment I kept running into a small problem that could have been avoided with longer work hours. Almost every morning around 7 or 8 I would be woken up by one thing or another. Some days it was the maintenance crew banging on one thing, someone honking outside of my window, or the cleaning people sandblasting the sidewalk. Not everyone keeps normal hours by choice.

Its not something I or anyone could prove without implementation, but I feel more people would be more productive and much more happy if the stress caused by such a chaotic lifestyle were removed. The stress of rush hour traffic, getting to work on time, rushing to pick up laundry or go to the bank, then rush home is often times overwhelming. Its time for a change… for the better.

#210: Proof at Last

[F.U.C.K. is an e-zine that I started on January 24, 1993 and ended on January 24, 2000. One concept is that articles should be timeless if possible, so they were not released with dates. As such, the date on this blog is not exact but I will try to use a date as close as possible.]


This started out as my file written after reading the bible. As I got further into it, I ran across more and more errors. Halfway through I picked up two books that are a must read. Both are much more comprehensive and much more convincing than this file. After the first two are a few more books worth reading that deal with this subject.

          The Bible Handbook     W.P. Ball and G.W. Foote
          American Atheist Press      ISBN: 0-910309-26-4

          Ken's Guide to the Bible              Ken Smith
          Blast Books                 ISBN: 0-922233-17-9

          The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You To Read
          Tim C. Leedom               ISBN: 0-8403-8908-6

          The Dark Side of Christian History
          Helen Ellerbe               ISBN: 0-9644873-4-9

Below are the major sections I divided flaws into. Some of these are flaws in writing, some are flaws in character which goes against the nature/idea of the bible. Remember, this file is very imcomplete. I am releasing it because of the books I listed (they do the job for me) and the overwhelming demand for me to ‘back my argument’ during debates.

Some of the quotes were reworded after reading Ken’s guide as he has a better knack for subtlety than I do. 🙂

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  1. Contradictions
  2. Misconceptions
  3. Sex
    Homosexuality/Lesbianism
    Incest
    Prostitution
    Adultery
    Rape
    What?!
  4. Smite
    Kill the children
    Kill them after the truce
    Kill the blacks
    Kill the pregnant women
    Kill your starving subjects
    Kill their women too
    Kill the innocents
    Kill the non-believers
    Kill the masses
    Kill man, woman, infant, all
  5. Weirdness
    That’s in the Bible?!
    Slavery
    Indentured Servitude (7 Years)
    Other gods
    Animal Sacrifice
    Human Sacrifice
    Eating Feces
    Cannibalism
  6. Quotes

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Contradictions
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(The bible tells us that God and Satan are the same.)

Chronicles 21:1 – “AND Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.”

II Samuel 24:1 – “AND again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.”

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The bible specifies the exact dimensions of the ark. 300 cubits long, 30 cubits tall, 50 cubits wide. A cubit is defined as the lenght between your elbow and the end of your arm, or about 18-21 inches. Given this, we can say the ark was 6300 inches long or 525 feet (21×300/12). We know that it was 630 inches tall or 52.5 feet. The width would have been 1050 inches or 87 feet. 175 yards long, 17.5 yards tall, and 29 yards wide. The bible tells us that it was loaded with “two of every sort”, and that the flood lasted 1 year and 1 week. Given the animals, and food for those animals (we will assume they drank fresh rain water), and the segregation needed between certain species, this seems impossible.

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Genesis 7:11 : God orders Abraham to circumcise his flesh

Leviticus 21:17-23 : “If you have a blemish, are blind, lame, flat nose, or anything superflous, brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, crookbacked or a dwarf or blemish in eye, scurvy, scabbed, or stones broken… blemish of the seed of Aaron..” then you can’t go unto the altar or you will profane the sanctuaries.

Superflous: long hair? beard? etc

Deuteronomy 23:1 : “He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off shall not enter into congregation… a bastard even to his 10th generation…Ammonite or Moabite…”

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Both refer to the same event, but are told by two people.

Matt 10:5-10 : “…These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them…Take no gold, nor silver, nor copper in your belts…nor sandals, nor a staff.”

Mark 6:7-9 : “He charged them to take nothing for their journey EXCEPT a staff.”

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Exodus 20:8 : “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.”

Romans 14:5 : “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.”

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Ecclesiastes 1:4 – “… the earth abideth for ever.”

2 Peter 3:10 – “… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

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Genesis 32:30 : “… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”

John 1:18 : “No man hath seen God at any time…”

Exodus 33:11 : “And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend…”

Exodus 33:20-23 : “And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: and it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: and I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts; but my face shall not be seen.”

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Matthew 19:26 – “… with God all things are possible.”

Judges 1:19 – “… The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.”

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Exodus 21:23-25 – “… thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”

Matthew 5:39 – “… ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on they right cheek, turn to him the other also.” –

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Genesis 17:10 – “This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.”

Galatians 5:2 – “… if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”

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Deuteronomy 27:22 – “Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.”

Leviticus 20:17 – “And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter . . . it is a wicked thing. . . .”

Genesis 17:15-16 : “And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife . . . I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her.”

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Proverbs 12:2 – “A good man obtaineth favour of the LORD. . . .”

Job 2:3 – “Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.”

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Ecclesiastes 9:7 – “Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart. . . .”

I Corinthians 7:30 – “… they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not…”

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Ezekiel 18:20 – “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.”

Exodus 20:5 – “I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…”

Deuteronomy 23:1 – “He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off shall not enter into congregation… a bastard even to his 10th generation…Ammonite or Moabite…”

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James 1:13 – “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.”

Genesis 22:1 – “And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham”

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Exodus 20:12 – “Honour thy father and thy mother…”

Luke 14:26 – “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”

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Job 7:9 – “…he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more.”

John 5:28-29 – “… the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth…”

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Matthew 16:28 – “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”

Luke 21:32-33 – “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”

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Romans 13:11-12 – “And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.”

James 5:8 – “Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.”

I John 2:18 – “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”

I Peter 4:7 – “But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.”

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Leviticus 18:21 – “… Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God. . . .”

Judges 11:30-31 – “. . . If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’s, and I
will offer it up for a burnt offering”

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John 5:31 – “If I [Jesus] bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.”

John 8:18 – “I [Jesus] am one that bear witness of myself…”

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Matthew 1:16 – “And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary…”

Luke 3:23 – “And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being . . . the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli…”

Romans 1:3 – “Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh…”

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John 10:34 – “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”

According to this scripture, Jesus thought that the Jewish law (i.e., the Old Testament) reported that he said the Jews were gods.

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Luke 12:4 – “And I [Jesus] say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.”

John 8:59 – “Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple…”

John 7:1 – “After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.”

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Luke 12:51-52 – “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I [Jesus] tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.”

Matthew 10:34 – “Think not that I [Jesus] am come to send peace on earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword.”

Matthew 26:52 – “… for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.”

Luke 22:36 – “… and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”

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Matthew 10:35-6 – “For I [Jesus] am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.”

Luke 14:26 – “If any man come unto me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”

Matthew 19:19 – “Honour thy father and thy mother…”

Matthew 23:9 – “And call no man your father upon earth…”

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Matthew 7:24 – “Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I [Jesus] will liken him unto a wise man…”

Matthew 5:29 – “And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish…”

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Matthew 2:23 – “… that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He [Jesus] shall be called a Nazarene.”

There is no mention by the Old Testament prophets that Jesus would be the prophet of Nazarene.

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Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32 : “Verily I [Jesus] say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things [the end of the world] be fulfilled.”

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Matthew 28:1-8 – His friends come to Jesus’s tomb, but the doorstone is rolled away and one angel sitting on it outside gives the news to them before they go in.

Luke 24:1-4 – His friends come to the tomb, go inside, find nobody, are perplexed, and then two men give them the news.

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Genesis 4:17 – “And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.”

(Only female alive at this time was his mother Eve…)

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Genesis 1:25-26 – “And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that is was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…”

Genesis 2:18-19 – “And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air…”

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1:3 Creates light
1:14 Creates sun and moon

1:27 Creates man AND woman
2:22 Creates Eve – first woman

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Misconceptions
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Genesis 4:15 – The Mark of Cain is not bad. The Mark was bestowed upon Cain as a mark of protection. God went on to say that anyone who messed with Cain, would receive the same sevenhold.

Exodus 15:3 – “The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.”

Plowshares into Weapons?

Joel 3:9-10 – “Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.”

Women in the Church

I Corinthians 14:34-35 – “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”

Sounds good, let’s borrow that idea.

Matthew 5:39 – “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”

This idea was not originated by christians, but by Buddha some 500 years before.

Heaven.. the ideal vacation place

Revelation 4:6-8 – “And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHICH WAS, AND IS , AND IS TO COME.

Quit yelling false prophet

Matthew 6:5-6 “And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hyprocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

(Guess this goes against public prayer?)

Take a number

Revelation 7:3-4 – “The survivors Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.”

Revelations 9:3-4 – “And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.”

(Here we have 144,000 Jews that will survive the end of the world and ascend into heaven. Everyone else will perish, including all christians.)

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Matthew 19:16-17 – “And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.”

Contradiction: Jesus refers to God as a seperate being. No Holy Trinity here at all.

Weirdness: If none but God is good, then what does that make Jesus?

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Matthew 23:33 – “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”

(Jesus against the Jews)

Family Values from Jesus

Luke 12:49 – “I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”

God creates evil

Isaiah 45:7 – “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”

(Sign of a good natured god?)

Luke 14:26 – “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”

(See also Luke 12:51-53, Matthew 11:34-37)

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Sex
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Homosexuality/Lesbianism

Romans 1:26-27 : “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

Romans 1:26-27 : “..God gave [the idol worshippers] over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.”

Incest

Genesis 19:32-35

Genesis 29:15-30 : Jacob wants to have sex with lovely Rachel (his first cousin), but her father demands seven years of labor in exchange. Jacob does his time, and then on the wedding night Rachel’s father tricks Jacob into having sex with (and thereby marrying) Leah, Rachel’s ugly sister (another first cousin).

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Genesis 2:23 : “And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of man.”

Genesis 4:1-2 : “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. And she again bare his brother Abel. and Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.”

Genesis 4:17 “And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch…”

Prostitution

Genesis 12:10-20 : Abraham is married to Sarah, his beautiful half-sister. He curries favor (and grows rich) by allowing the Pharaoh of Egypt to have sex with her. He tells the Pharaoh that Sarah is his sister. He fails to mention that she is also his wife.

Genesis 30:1-11 : Rachel and Leah battle for Jacob’s favor by giving him their maids as sex partners.

Genesis 30:14-16 : Rachel makes a barter deal with Leah: a night of sex with Jacob for some mandrake plants.

Genesis 38:11-19 : Judah, one of Jacob’s sons, has sex with his daughter-in-law after she tricks him into thinking that she’s a prostitute..

Genesis 35:22 : Jacob gives Joseph the status of eldest son after he discovers that Reuben, his real eldest son, has had sex with his mistress.
Genesis 49:4 : Jacob brands Reuben as “unstable”.
Chronicles 5:1 : Reuben “defiled his father’s bed” and the bible leaves it at that.

Song of Songs 2:3 : “Like an apple tree among the trees of the forst is my lover among the young men. I delight to sit in his shade, and his fruit is sweet to my taste.”

Song of Songs 4:16 : “Blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad. Let my lover come into his garden, and taste its choice fruits.”

Song of Songs 7:1-2 : “How graceful are your feet in sandals, O queenly maiden! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. Your navel is a rounded bowl that never lacks mixed win. Your belly is a heap of wheat, encircled with lilies.”

Song of Songs 7:6-9 : “How fair and pleasant you are, O loved one, delectable maiden! You are stately as a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its branches. Oh, may your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, and the scent of your breath like apples, and your kisses like the best wine that goes down smoothly, gliding over lips of teeth.”

Song of Songs 8:1-2 : “O that you were like a brother to me, who nursed at my mother’s breast! If I met you outside, I would kiss you… I would lead you and bring you into the house of my mother, and into the chamber of the one who bore me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, the juice of my pomegranates.”

Luke 1:35 : “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you.” (Describing way Mary is to be impregnated)

Corinthians 6:18-19 : “Shun fornication! All other sins that a person commits are outside his body, but the fornicator sins against the body itself. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God, and that you are not your own?”

Corinthians 6:15 : “Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitue? Never!”

Corinthians 7:5 : “Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time to devote yourselves to prayer, and then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control”

Adultery

II Samuel 12:11 : “This said the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.”

Rape

Judges 19:24-25 : “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.”

Other instances of sex

(I selected a few out of Ken’s list)

Genesis 19:4-5 Two angels and the men of Sodom (unconsummated)
Genesis 19:30-36 Lot and his daughters (forced)
Genesis 39:7,10-12 Joseph and Potiphar’s wife (unconsummated)
Numbers 25:1 The men of Israel and the women of Moab
Judges 16:1 Samson and an unnamed prostitute
Judges 19:25 Men of Gibeah and an unnamed woman (forced)
I Samuel 2:22 Eli’s sons and the women servants
II Samuel 13:11-14 Amnon and Tamar (forced)
Isaiah 13:16 Men of Medes and wives of Babylon (forced)
Jeremiah 5:7-8 Men of Jerusalem and numerous prostitues

What?!

Revelation 14:3-4 The apostle John notes that those who’ve had sex with women will not be saved.

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Smite
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Genesis 8:21 “neither will I again smite any more everything living as I have done.”

Kill the children

Exodus 11:4-5 – “And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.”

Kill them after the truce

I Chronicles 20:3 – “And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes…”

(This after the cessation of hostilities)

Kill the blacks

II Chronicles 14:9 – “Zerah, the Ethiopian came up against them with an army of a million and three hundred chariots…”

II Chronicles 14:12 – “Then the LORD struck down the Ethiopians before Asa and Judah so that the Ethiopians fled.”

(God kills over a million blacks)

Kill the pregnant women

Hosea 13:!6 – “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”

(Why should the innocent children have to die as well?)

Kill your starving subjects

Numbers 21:5-6 – “And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.

And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

Kill their women too

Numbers 31:16-18 – “Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

Kill the innocents

Deuteronomy 2:34 – “And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.”

Deuteronomy 3:6-7 – “And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves.”

Kill the non-believers

Deuteronomy 12:2-3 – “Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:

And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.”

Deuteronomy 13:5 – “And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God…”

Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;”

Deuteronomy 13:8-9 – “Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.”

Deuteronomy 13:15 – “Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.”

Kill the masses

I Samuel 6:19 – “And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.”

Kill man, woman, infant, all

I Samuel 15:2-3 – “Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”

(Suckling infants?! What a loving god.)

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Weirdness
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Genesis 17:14 : Uncircumcised = no christian must be curcumcised when 8 days old Yet it is a sin to see another’s genitals. Also numerous passages about wounding of privy parts to be sacreligious

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Genesis 6:11 – “The Earth was corrupt before God and the Earth was filled with Violence”

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Genesis 17:25 mention of ishmael
22:2 “thine only son Isaac”
25:9 “his sons Isaac and Ishmael”
25:11 “his son Isaac”
25:12 “generations of Ishmael”

What happened to Ishmael? Apparently Ishmael was a stand in.

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Sarah dies @ age 127 in Genesis, yet everyone else lived near a thousand years. Why the sudden drop in lifespan?

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Genesis 1:26 “And god said, let us make man in our image”
Genesis 1:27 “So god created man in his own image..”

Should be ‘their’ image.

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Joshua 10:12-13 – “Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.”

(This implies the sun revolves around the earth.. we won’t even start on why the lord stopped the sun for such a noble cause)

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That’s in the Bible?!

John 10:8 : “All that ever came before me [Jesus] are thieves and robbers…”

Psalm 137:9 – “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

I Samuel 16:23 – “And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.”

I Samuel 19:9 – “And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.”

Slavery

Genesis 17:23 – “..and all that were bought with his money..”

Indentured Servitude (7 Years)

Genesis 29:18 – “..I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter.”

Genesis 29:27 – “…another seven years..”

Other gods

Genesis 35:2 – “Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments”

Animal Sacrifice

Genesis 22:13 – “..and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son”

Human Sacrifice

Exodus 22:29 “Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.”

Eating Feces

II Kings 6:25 – “And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass’s head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove’s dung for five pieces of silver.”

Cannibalism

II Kings 6:28-29 – “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son”

Deuteronomy 28:53 – “And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD they God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straightness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee”

Deuteronomy 28:57 – “And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, where with thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.”

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Quotes
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Question with boldness even the existance of God; because if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather than that of blindfolded fear. — Thomas Jefferson

In the begining, there was nothing. Then God said “Let there be light.” After that, there was still nothing, but at least you could see. — Mike Guilmore

“It’s interesting to speculate how it developed that in two of the most anti-feminist institutions, the church and the law court, the men are wearing the dresses.” — Flo Kennedy